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TCL vs V8 Supercars - 22nd July 2012

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Post by TTR Benny 7/8/2012, 12:34 pm


TCL vs V8 Supercars - 22nd July 2012 TCLvsV8

We Can now Confirm the Date for the First TCL vs V8 Supercar Race as Sunday the 22nd July 2012


This will be a 2 hour enduro and much testing has been completed to enable us to make it a closer race than you think.

To Achieve this we have made the fuel and Tyre Consumption at a level that the V8 Supercars Must Stop every 8 Laps which is nearly 3 times to every one stop in the TCL vehicles.

This track has also been chosen as it will enable faster Vehicles not to be held up to long as there are two good straights not far apart to limit the need for people to push through. It goes without saying Any faster Vehicle pushing it's way through the slower vehicles will Be greatly Frowned upon

All V8 Supercar Drivers Will have a Weight Penalty of 254 KG (max Available)

The Server Will be Set for 5 x Tyre Wear and 3 x Fuel Consumption

There are 26 Slots Currently available for this race and they will be allocated 13 to TCL Vehicles and 13 to V8 Supercars.

Regular Saturday and Sunday Night Races will be given first option to have a slot for the races.

We are performing a little more testing this week but more than likely the Class 2 TCL Vehicles will be run in a separate class of there own.

All TCL Vehicles are available to Run in this event.
For those without TCL you will need the Mod Available Here as Well as the All Addon Pack Available Here

All V8 Supercars 2012 are available to run in this event.
For those without V8 Supercars Unleashed you will need the Mod Available Here and the 2012 Skins Available Here

These Mods Will Need to be installed in the Same install and I would Suggest creating a New Install for this event

For those with out the Sandown Track it is Available Here

There is a Server up and running for people to test as of now. Anyone wishing to run MUST SPEND SOME TIME TESTING WITH BOTH VEHICLES ON THE TRACK TO GET USE TO THE SPEED YOU APPROACH SLOWER CARS

As Said above Regular Saturday and Sunday Night Races will be given first option to have a slot for the races So post below with car Selection

V8 Supercar Slots
1. TTR Benny - Jack Daniels - 7
2. TTR Kwik-Kiwi - Bottl-O - 55
3. Flyingfijian - SP Tools - 9
4. Pisstank TBA
5. RR1CHO~XR~ - Jack Daniels - 15
6. NuckinFuts - Kelly Racing - 51
7. Sublime -TBA
8. Guttlessmidget TBA
9. TTR Dano - TBA -TBA
10. sonofa - TBA -TBA
11.
EAO Killerkey's - GRM2011 - 33
12. Jason Bell - Tekno Autosport -19
13. Available
14. Available
15. Available


Touring Car Legend Slots
1. CortyGT - SIERRA - 35
2. Webber - SIERRA - 17
3. IcemanForbes -SIERRA - 20
4. TTR Powerslave - SIERRA -25
5. GROUPCACTION - TBA -TBA
6. MOZZA - BMW M3 -TBA
7. SHANO TWR VL Commodore -16

8. PETER308 TWR VL Commodore - TBA
9. David Patterson ?
10. BILLY BOB - TBA -TBA
11. RACER69 - SIERRA - 18
12. Growler - TBA - TBA
13.
Hayden Kirk - SIERRA
14. Available
15. Available



If your unsure on your Car at this stage but will be running please List that so we can reserve a slot for you


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Post by TTR Benny 7/8/2012, 12:38 pm

I will Take The Jack Daniels No.7 V8 Supercar at This stage Unless we are short of TCL Vehicle and I will Switch to help with Numbers
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Post by CortyGT 7/8/2012, 1:04 pm

TCL
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Post by Webber 7/8/2012, 1:17 pm

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Post by KKR kwik-kiwi 7/8/2012, 2:04 pm

V8 Super Car
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Post by IcemanForbes 7/8/2012, 3:20 pm

Looking to have a crack in a TCL Sierra #20 at this stage.
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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/8/2012, 3:24 pm

I'll run in a Sierra not sure what the number is but the longhurst B&H one if possible

#25 Smile
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Post by TTR Benny 7/8/2012, 6:15 pm

I Have updated the server only people signed up for a V8 Supercars above will have weight penalties automatically applied on the practice server. This will enable people to test TCL without the weight.

Still waiting for a couple of more test results to come in but the sierra may have a weight penalty as well allthough no where near the level that the V8 has
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Post by moo 7/8/2012, 6:57 pm

v8 supercar #6 will davison

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Post by FlyingFijian 7/8/2012, 7:35 pm

SVG #9 SP TOOLS BEAST
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Post by RR1CH0 7/8/2012, 10:50 pm

JDR NO15

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Post by NuckinFuts 7/9/2012, 6:57 am

I'll run the Greg Murphy #51 (I think ) if that's cool , if numbers are needed in tcl mod can also switch Smile

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Post by groupcaction 7/9/2012, 8:24 am

Lock me in for a TCL entry... Car & team TBA
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Post by TTR Benny 7/9/2012, 8:49 am

Have Reserved Some Spots at this stage for regular Drivers of these nights I'm Sorry If I have missed anyone.

Those with a ? next to there name if you could confirm ASAP to hold the slot allocated to you
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Post by TTR Benny 7/9/2012, 9:24 am

I know I said at the top didin't want to take the server out to more slots but I believe we could probably push it out to 32 slots giving us another 3 cars per Mod.

To Do this we would be looking at 5.70 US per Month but due to the race being after the invoice date we would have to pay it for two months making it $11.40 US

At present I'm struggling to make the server payments due to the extra costs at home at the moment and if there weren't donations to keep us going each month I would have to drop a server. So I could only extend it out to more slots if between us we could cover the cost of the extra slots.

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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/9/2012, 2:11 pm

Sublime will run for sure in the Vodaphone car he drives, Pisstank will be in to he wants to have a go at TCL if there is room Prob a Sierra I'll get him and sublime to confirm car numbers.

I'll also see what gutless is doing, I know he seems to have internet issues every Sat/Sun that's why hes not been running...
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Post by TTR Benny 7/9/2012, 2:59 pm

TTR Powerslave wrote:Sublime will run for sure in the Vodaphone car he drives, Pisstank will be in to he wants to have a go at TCL if there is room Prob a Sierra I'll get him and sublime to confirm car numbers.

I'll also see what gutless is doing, I know he seems to have internet issues every Sat/Sun that's why hes not been running...

They are down for V8's TCL Slots will pretty much be all taken at this stage (waiting on a few more regulars to confirm)
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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/9/2012, 4:50 pm

If more TCL slots are needed then Im happy to run in the V8's if needed.. I'm pretty sure Pisstank will be driving the Tenko Car
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Post by TTR Benny 7/9/2012, 4:55 pm

We are running out on both sides Powerslave so at this stage all good for you to stay in a TCL Vehicle. I have Pm'd All reserved slots to see if they intend on running so we know what we have left
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Post by Guest 7/9/2012, 5:01 pm

Heya Benny, thanks for holdin little old me a spot!

I'll probably run a TCL M3. Not there to win! Very Happy

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Post by shano 7/9/2012, 5:16 pm

im gonna run the no 16 vl twr
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Post by Growler 7/9/2012, 8:11 pm

Which cars are in the TCL Group 1 and what cars are in group 2?
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Post by Guest 7/9/2012, 8:16 pm

Group 1
VL TWR
Sierra
Skyline
etc


Group 2.
M3
Mercedes
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Post by TTR Benny 7/9/2012, 8:19 pm

I'm going to Jump on Tonight and do some laps if anyone is interest in a run
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Post by TTR Benny 7/10/2012, 9:44 am

Did some more testing last night. Dialed in a pretty nice setup now able to push in the 10's most of the laps and short shifting through the whole stint enables me to stop on lap 9 instead of 8 but pitting with 1.0 litre left in the car.

Doesn't seem like a lot but I believe could turn out to be pretty massive on previous calculations I have the v8's running out of fuel at the 2hour mark not a lap later.

It is going to be hard to get past sierra's though they are only 4 klms slower in a straight line.
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Post by Webber 7/10/2012, 1:07 pm

Benny are you adding the pit stop times into your calculations?
ie race length 2 hours = (number of stints) x (number of laps per stint) x (lap time) + (number of pit stops x time taken in the pits)

Might make it easier on the V8 drivers to get to the finish with fuel
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Post by TTR Benny 7/10/2012, 2:04 pm

Mine Sums for original testing are 8 laps averaging 71 seconds per lap total 568 seconds of track time Pitstops was averaging a loss of 30-35 seconds so lets say 35 as an average

To Complete 24 laps on the track including 3 stops at 35 seconds per stop and to be full for the start of the next run would take a total of 1809 Seconds or 30mins and 9 seconds. If we then times this by 4 four to get you to the line for the two hour race.

But The Very last stop isn't needed the catch i was thinking and depending if you had the perfect run technically without final stop you would cross the line at 1 seconds before the 2 hour mark (2hours 36 seconds minus 35seconds For not completing last stop) so rolling out on the straight to make sure you didn't need to do another lap. Where it threw a spanner in the works as I'm not 100% what the quick guys can lap in the sierra yet and If the sierra was half a lap ahead of me I would have to do another stop to get the extra lap in. as it would cross the line to get an extra lap in before the 2 hour mark. Does it makes sence

For me and I know it won't work in theroy as averaging those times in that much traffic is impossible but with the 9 laps per tank I got last night this takes away this problem I was thinking quite possibly could have on the last lap of the event

If my maths is wrong please let me know
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Post by Webber 7/10/2012, 2:35 pm

Sounds good, I was sure you would already have thought of that. Shaping up to be a cracker, with the who's who of Saturdays and Sundays starting to sign up

edit - must admit I was hoping for IcemanForbes to drive a V8 since he seems to be quick in them. M1N1K0B3 have you got something on?


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Post by TTR Benny 7/10/2012, 2:41 pm

I pretty sure we will be able to run with a full server which will be pretty impressive.

Not looking foward in theory to having to attempt to pass you and Racer plus others 3 times every 30mins. The sierra isn't down much on straight line performance only around the 4klm mark. It doesn't help that a few of you guys can carry more speed though the Corners in the queen mary than I can in a v8 supercar going to make it very interesting. The laps I did last night Against Mozza in the BMW yep on the straights no drama to drive on by but other than that I couldn't afford a dive under brakes as lock the wheels a couple of times and it is going to screw your tyre life really quickly.

My money is still on a TCL vehicle for the win
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Post by TTR Benny 7/10/2012, 2:52 pm

M1N1 thought it was Saturday night sundays is F1 on tv night
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Post by Webber 7/10/2012, 3:00 pm

It's the German GP, this race will be done before it starts at 10 pm!! M1N1, how could you miss this?
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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/10/2012, 3:07 pm

Webber wrote:It's the German GP, this race will be done before it starts at 10 pm!! M1N1, how could you miss this?

Yea do what I did and get a TIVO Smile that way I never miss any motorsport Smile
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Post by Guest 7/10/2012, 3:13 pm

Hopefully some of the twr boys get their shit together, no one likes seeing Sierras representing all the time lol.

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Post by Growler 7/10/2012, 7:54 pm

mozza wrote:Hopefully some of the twr boys get their shit together, no one likes seeing Sierras representing all the time lol.
I'll try!
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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/10/2012, 10:17 pm

My Preference was to run the VL, I did some more testing and I find it much easier to drive can look after the tires better and can stretch a few more laps (24-26) on juice over the Sierra.... But at this stage im at least 1.5sec (1:15.6 VL time more like 16s) a lap slower than the Sierra (1:14.1 best time so far prob mid 14's by race) and 5sec a lap slower than the V8's(1:11s-12s) (the group i think I would be running aggainst not front runners). at a ruff calculation would prob still have me down by about 36sec after 24laps & 144sec at end of race, The sierra has me right with them after 24 and at the final lap too as benny said if the V8's have to do a splash and dash Sierra wins if not V8

Having said that if I can drive the VL clean (Which i seem to be able too) maybe it might get me past a few of the V8's that will struggle to manage Tires & Fuel...

torn between taking a Quick car and a car that I think i could manage well over 2hrs..
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Post by Berlsy 7/11/2012, 10:17 am

Count me out for this benny, still gonna be over seas so someone can have my spot but only if they drive a tcl commo Laughing

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Post by shano 7/11/2012, 10:38 am

i will hold the flag for ya in the twr bersly...

lots of calculations goin on here... just fill it up and go on the day..

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Post by TTR Benny 7/11/2012, 12:36 pm

Berlsy wrote:Count me out for this benny, still gonna be over seas so someone can have my spot but only if they drive a tcl commo Laughing

Sorry Berlsy with it being while your away. Im sure if we get it working well on the night we will do it more often

shano wrote:i will hold the flag for ya in the twr bersly...

lots of calculations goin on here... just fill it up and go on the day..


TCL vs V8 Supercars - 22nd July 2012 192488 I'd prefer to do it that way Have just been running number to make sure we are semi even of the night
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Post by shano 7/11/2012, 1:05 pm

all good benny b i knew wat you was doin it for.. i not think ive ever tested a full stint lol... gonna be good nite benny lookin forward to ramming mozza
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Post by TTR Benny 7/11/2012, 1:12 pm

Shano Was thinking to help close the gap to the Sierra's that everytime a VL hit the little BMW we could grant a 10 second bonus to there finish time. We could even stagger it based on the amount of damage you can create or even if we work a system that gives you the total time that you can get him to loose by pushing him off the track

Let me know which bonus system works best for you shanoTCL vs V8 Supercars - 22nd July 2012 192488
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Post by groupcaction 7/11/2012, 1:19 pm

Shano just make sure Mozza has a beer & a shovel down at Dandenong Corner when you push him into the sand... Hahahaha Smile
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Post by Guest 7/11/2012, 3:55 pm

Holy crap! Comedians! Lmfao!!!

Shano, you'll have to be the careful one, I'm sure I can have a look under brakes... Hell, I'll even park the pink hog next to the fence so you can make a quick escape to the pub. Lol

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Post by shano 7/11/2012, 5:22 pm

lol i just go home i live next to sandown... so when i punt mozza off he can go to my place andtake out the pink hog lol.... i not worried about the sierras benny the top 3 sierra drivers will be gone to worry about lol.. the others i will have fun with lol........

i wish we had these crash damage physics... it would be forkin crazy lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9JPDtDfxf6w
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Post by David Paterson 7/11/2012, 5:58 pm

shano wrote:

i wish we had these crash damage physics... it would be forkin crazy lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9JPDtDfxf6w

That's awesome shano, love it!
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Post by Guest 7/11/2012, 6:00 pm

Beers at Shanos post race then!

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Post by Growler 7/11/2012, 6:19 pm

Will mechanical damage be on? That will add some strategy to it...
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Post by TTR Powerslave 7/11/2012, 9:44 pm

shano wrote:lol i just go home i live next to sandown... so when i punt mozza off he can go to my place andtake out the pink hog lol.... i not worried about the sierras benny the top 3 sierra drivers will be gone to worry about lol.. the others i will have fun with lol........

i wish we had these crash damage physics... it would be forkin crazy lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9JPDtDfxf6w



Very impressive and good find hope it makes it to a Sim sometime
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Post by M1N1K0B3 7/12/2012, 11:49 pm

TTR Benny wrote:M1N1 thought it was Saturday night sundays is F1 on tv night

Webber wrote:It's the German GP, this race will be done before it starts at 10 pm!! M1N1, how could you miss this?

TTR Powerslave wrote:Yea do what I did and get a TIVO Smile that way I never miss any motorsport Smile

Haha it's not just Formula 1 I have other things to do as well and don't really have time on Sunday Night's to race. I like to live stream the Sky Sports and BBC pre-race shows as well and watch Brundle do the grid-walks haha Very Happy I have a HD PVR even though I record the races, etc; but I like to have live timing open as well. If there's something I missed i'll just replay it then back to live Very Happy

Anyway enjoy the race guys!


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Post by peter308 7/13/2012, 4:43 pm

TCL TWR VL #?? ill get back to u on that one silent
cheer for holding a spot benny

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