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Post by Growler 5/29/2016, 12:06 pm

We are going back to 1972 baby!

Back when men were men and the cars were brutes to handle!

1972 Touring Car Championship - Starts 19th June 2sbljeq

Mod
Historix 1.96

League Format
The league will spread over 10 weeks. There will be 2  x 25 minute races per night however this may change from round to round. Qualifying will start at 7.30pm TTR time with the first race starting around 7.45pm.

Homologated Cars
You can choose any car from the B1 Class
1971 Capri 2600RS (210kw)
1970 BMW 2800CS (222kw)
1972 BMW 2002 Tii (187kw)
1972 Ford Escort RS Mk1 (187kw)
1970 Alfa Romeo (166kw)
1976 Alpine Renault A310 (197kw)
1973 BMW 3200 CSL (229kw)
1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS (174kw)
1971 Porsche 911 ST 2.4 (151kw)
1972 Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (190kw)
1972 Porsche 914/6 (170kw)

Tracks (Provisional. Some still to be tested)
Kyalami 1970 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Kyalami GP79]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Kyalami%20GP79[/url]
Longford 67 -[url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Longford 1967]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Longford%201967[/url]
Silverstone 1979 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Silverstone GP79]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Silverstone%20GP79[/url]
Monaco 1979 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Monaco GP79]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Monaco%20GP79[/url]
Hockenhiem 1979 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Hockenheim GP79]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Hockenheim%20GP79[/url]
Pau 1967 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pau 67]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pau%2067[/url]
Dijon 1979 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Dijon GP79]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Dijon%20GP79[/url]
Crystal Palace 1960 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Crystal Palace]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Crystal%20Palace[/url]
Olympia (Pacific Raceway) 1960 - [url=https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pacific Raceway]https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pacific%20Raceway[/url]
Goodwood - https://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Goodwood

Points
Following feedback, the points system will be as follows:
1st place will be 200 points, 2nd will be 190 points, 3rd will be 180 points etc.
Points are awarded to those who compete in 50% of the race.
There will also be a bonus 5 points to whoever gets pole position for race 1 for each round.
There will also be a 2 point bonus for every driver who starts the race
(Yes...more work for me to do!)

Car selection (Will open 10th June)
1970 Alfa Romeo (166kw)
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3.
4.

1976 Alpine Renault A310 (197kw)
1. WORM - Number 98
2. ChrisRX - Ugly Yellow and Blue one
3. Pyro - Number 203
4.

1973 BMW 3200 CSL (229kw)
1. Dave - Number 67
2.
3.
4.

1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS (174kw)
1.
2.
3.
4.

1971 Porsche 911 ST 2.4 (151kw)
1.
2.
3.
4.

1972 Porsche 911 ST 2.5 (190kw)
1.
2.
3.
4.

1972 Porsche 914/6 (170kw)
2.
3.
4.

1971 Capri 2600RS (210kw)
1. Fez - Number 68
2. Nutybolts - Number 7
3. Kiwibrick - Number 13
4. Supa - Number?

1970 BMW 2800CS (222kw)
1.
2.
3.
4.

1972 BMW 2002 Tii (187kw)
1.
2.
3.
4.

1972 Ford Escort RS Mk1 (187kw)
1. Vandem - Number 70
2. Corty - Number 18
3.
4.

PS. None of the above is meant to be historically correct...but its close enough!


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Post by vandem 5/30/2016, 9:34 pm

Woohoo!

I like the track choices except for Hockenheim.    If you want a fast track from the 79 mod track pack then IMHO Österreichring or Zandvoort are more interesting.

Pau is a hidden gem, we used once at KSR for HistoriX and it was great fun.   Graphics not great, but for a tight street circuit it has good flow down the hill, and a great T1-T2 combination, fast kink leading into a heavy braking zone.

Other 70s tracks to consider could be Monjuic or Brands GP version.

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Post by Growler 5/31/2016, 12:55 pm

Tracks are still provisional at this point.
I hope a few will be on this Sunday for a test session.
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Post by David Paterson 5/31/2016, 5:36 pm

I love Hockenheim, well the old one anyway, I've loved it since MicroProse GP.

I'll try to make it to the test on Sunday night, but this weekend is may last chance to get the 'rolla ready for the Sydney Retro Fest.
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Post by David Paterson 5/31/2016, 10:40 pm


I've just tested all of the GTTC-B1 cars and didn't really warm to any of them, but i love the Alfa GTAm, any chance we could include that too?

I didn't realise the Alfa wasn't on the list until i tested on three tracks... D'oh!
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Post by Growler 6/1/2016, 2:26 pm

David Paterson wrote:
I've just tested all of the GTTC-B1 cars and didn't really warm to any of them, but i love the Alfa GTAm, any chance we could include that too?

I didn't realise the Alfa wasn't on the list until i tested on three tracks...  D'oh!
I could, but I didn't think it would be that competitive...
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Post by David Paterson 6/1/2016, 3:50 pm

Growler wrote:
David Paterson wrote:
I've just tested all of the GTTC-B1 cars and didn't really warm to any of them, but i love the Alfa GTAm, any chance we could include that too?

I didn't realise the Alfa wasn't on the list until i tested on three tracks...  D'oh!
I could, but I didn't think it would be that competitive...

with me at the wheel you can be bloody sure it won't be competitive. Smile
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Post by vandem 6/1/2016, 4:55 pm

Growler wrote:Tracks are still provisional at this point.
I hope a few will be on this Sunday for a test session.

I plan to be there.

There may be a couple of car mis-matches, would be good to have a variety of the cars used this Sunday for comparison.

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Post by Supa 6/1/2016, 7:54 pm

Hey guys. The TS download is not working for Historic GT 1.96 kyalami...says page suspended!! Do you know where i can get the correct version?

Cheers

Supa!
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Post by David Paterson 6/1/2016, 9:51 pm

Well I've done a shitload of testing and I've decided to go with the Escort. It's a twitchy little bugger, but it's quick.
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Post by CortyGT 6/1/2016, 9:51 pm

Sorry guys, the website has been down for a few days, I contacted them and its back up now.
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Post by Supa 6/2/2016, 8:15 am

Cheers working fine now Smile

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Post by Fez 6/2/2016, 2:00 pm

put me down for the #68 capri
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Post by NutyBolts 6/2/2016, 7:58 pm

I go Capri2600RS (1GTTC B1)-Stewart-07

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Post by Growler 6/2/2016, 10:05 pm

Registrations are not open until the 10th June!
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Post by vandem 6/3/2016, 4:26 pm

Am away Sun so can't help test cars / tracks on-line then. But will probably be on-line Mon night (public holiday here in NZ) if you still want feedback Growler.

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Post by Growler 6/4/2016, 10:18 am

After initial testing from Vandem, the Escort seems to be too dominant.
After testing this Sunday I may remove it, or limit it to certain drivers that normally finish lower down the pack...

And Vandem...I should be around.
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Post by Growler 6/5/2016, 9:46 am

First practice tonight. I should be on around the usual time...
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Post by kiwibrick 6/5/2016, 8:13 pm

I'd like to be on but just can't get this mod to even show up in rfactor......
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Post by Growler 6/5/2016, 9:59 pm

Cheers for those who turned up. It was valuable testing.
I may change the format to use any B1 class car as these seem to be more matched.
I'll do a little more testing but will confirm in the next day or so.
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Post by Growler 6/6/2016, 5:03 pm

Car list has been updated. You can pick from any car in the B1 Class
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Post by DV_8 6/6/2016, 7:49 pm

A3 cars unfortunately didn't match up so well with the B1 cars, so I think that's the way to go.
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Post by vandem 6/6/2016, 9:02 pm

Good choice moving to only B1 cars.   If only the Alfa had a couple more hp, or I was a slightly quicker driver ....

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Post by OR~WORM 6/6/2016, 10:10 pm

Sorry for missing testing. I was trying to sort out a blown pc after the storm blackout but to no avail.
I was actually going to mention that the difference between the 2 classes was huge but I see you figured that out.
I'll wait to see what everyone picks and go with the underdog.

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Post by Growler 6/7/2016, 11:25 am

Yeah...I did more testing yesterday and it makes sense to go with the B1 cars.
(I wanted to replicate 70's Touring cars but obviously it didn't work out).
I tried most of the cars at Hockenheim on the default setting and they are within 2 - 3 seconds of each other.
I think the Escort and the Capri will be tough to beat, so may introduce weights and/or reduce the number available.
Don't knock the Alfa just yet. Although down on power it handles exceptionally well...which could be a bonus at the smaller tighter tracks.
The black sheep may be the CSL BMW however...
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Post by David Paterson 6/7/2016, 1:33 pm

For me the Alfa might be quicker than the Escort, because the time I save by staying on the track will easily exceed the time I lose on the straights...
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Post by Dave 6/7/2016, 5:33 pm

Growler wrote:(I wanted to replicate 70's Touring cars but obviously it didn't work out).

I think your initial car choice was good, but the tyres on the A3 cars killed them by comparison, is all.

My only other thought was a  B1/B2 split to have the Group 2 & 4 Capri's and BMW's running, but I like the open B1 class better. Probably the most varied class in the mod.

Weights might be something to think about, unless the bigger cars can run out of fuel in 25min?

Looking forward to the series!
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Post by Growler 6/9/2016, 5:08 pm

Just a reminder that car registrations will open tomorrow 7.00am TTR Time (Melbourne).
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Post by Dave 6/10/2016, 8:12 am

I'll take advantage of Growler's (presumed) typo and book my car now!

#67 BMW 3.2 CSL Alpina, ta. Dunno who drives it, but it's the big blue thing.
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Post by Growler 6/10/2016, 2:21 pm

Dave wrote:I'll take advantage of Growler's (presumed) typo and book my car now!

#67 BMW 3.2 CSL Alpina, ta. Dunno who drives it, but it's the big blue thing.
What typo???
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Post by Fez 6/10/2016, 7:45 pm

#68 capri...
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Post by vandem 6/10/2016, 8:32 pm

#070 Escort.

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Post by NutyBolts 6/10/2016, 8:49 pm

# 7--Ford Capri

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Post by kiwibrick 6/10/2016, 9:52 pm

#13 Ford Capri
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Post by Growler 6/12/2016, 8:38 am

One Capri left!
Last practise tonight
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Post by Supa 6/12/2016, 3:42 pm

Put me down for tha last Capri thanks Growler.
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Post by Growler 6/12/2016, 4:27 pm

All of the Capris are gone...
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Post by Supa 6/12/2016, 4:38 pm

Ok maybe the 74 BMW CSL Alpina 3.2 #67 Peltier
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Post by Supa 6/12/2016, 4:40 pm

hmm thats taken...maybe 74 BMW #76
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Post by Growler 6/12/2016, 6:03 pm

Supa wrote:hmm thats taken...maybe 74 BMW #76
Sorry...bad timing. You have the last Capri...so now none are available...
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Post by OR~WORM 6/12/2016, 6:26 pm

A310 #98 Thx

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Post by kiwibrick 6/13/2016, 12:41 pm

Was fun last night, I think just staying on the road for a whole race will yield decent finishing positions!
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Post by CortyGT 6/13/2016, 12:55 pm

kiwibrick wrote:Was fun last night, I think just staying on the road for a whole race will yield decent finishing positions!

You surprised me last night, you have some good pace in that capri !
Well done !
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Post by kiwibrick 6/13/2016, 1:04 pm

No answer for the power of the batmobile though haha
Still struggling for some mid corner steering as well, but yeah it's going pretty good, your's looked a bit of a handful....

Saw the underside of fez's porker for quite some time as he decided to try and race on 2 wheels on one of the slow lefthanders, I will have to get a short vid of it
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Post by TTR-Chrisrx 6/13/2016, 6:56 pm

alpine for me thanks! i'll go the ugliest light blue and yellow paint schemed one thanks to worm!
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Post by CortyGT 6/16/2016, 11:22 pm

Escort for me !!
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Post by Pyro- 6/17/2016, 1:47 am

A310 #203
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Post by CortyGT 6/17/2016, 10:54 pm

So this weekend is Kyalami, 2x 25min races right ?

Is there any CPS's in either race ?
Will there be any weight penalties ?
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Post by Fez 6/18/2016, 7:55 am

any reverse grids?
im assuming no as it wasnt stated.
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Post by Growler 6/18/2016, 9:22 am

TTR-CortyGT wrote:So this weekend is Kyalami, 2x 25min races right ?

Is there any CPS's in either race ?
Will there be any weight penalties ?
Yes there will be CPS's on some rounds. Details will be posted for each round
Yes there will be weight penalties which I will introduce in Round 2 (Once I know how to figure it out!)

Fez wrote:any reverse grids?
im assuming no as it wasnt stated.
Details will be posted for each round
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