Rd8 - Bathurst 120km pre-race

So onto (in my opinion) the best track in the world for Round 8, Bathurst

This is the Asia-Pacific swing of the series after the first 7 rounds in Europe

What times are do people think they might be able to pump out?


To get us in the mood, the real round 8 of the 1987 WTCC, the Bathurst 1000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhk0xgiIGEw

sierra i made, heres the file. replaces DJR #17 the car i use
http://www.mediafire.com/?xewt7z7ihh5n47m

Geez if I ever had a hoo-doo track, Bathurst would be the one. I've never ever done well here in any Sim, in any mod, at any time... Capping it off by probably not being able to do as much practice this week as I'd like... 'Sif it wasn't gonna be up hill for the Merc anyway!

Just a thought, and to mix it up a bit, make it a bit more realistic....

Full qualifying session in a "Practice 2" mode, then in the "Qualifying" session, we have a top 10 shootout. 10 cars, 1 lap. Do your best....

Obviously the times from the "Practice 2" qualifying session would need to be noted to ensure that the grid positions outside the 10 stay the same, and it would need to be made clear to those that aren't in the top 10 that the can't go out on track during the "Qualifying" session... but yeah.

Just a thought, from outside the box, so to speak.

Last time I did Bathurst was the first competition race I did with you guys Had awesome fun and the top ten shootout was great - especially since I managed to get in on it Looking back at my rfactor score sheet, the best time I ever did in the Volvo turned out to be my hot lap in the top ten!! A 2:16.8. Just had a quick bash earlier this evening and could only manage 2:20!! I'm a little out of practice on the mountain it seems. In the race I recall I had a good dice with Bersly - Volvo was pretty good over the top and his VK was killing me in the straights. Should be a great race with the class 2 cars over the top. Bathurst is my all time favourite track and is on my "to do" list for 2012. Just gotta save up enough for flights.......

what ya reckon guys??????????????????????????????

add 87 bathurst cars for this round???????????????????

have a 2 hour classic starting at regular time with qualifying and top ten at 5pm??????????????????????????????????


regular 120k round at normal times????????????????????????????????

Bathurst 87 cars sounds good, not sure about 2 hours race might be a bit of a struggle but top ten shootout would be tops

hope i finish better than the real perkins, watch the video 4:45

Wally26 wrote:what ya reckon guys??????????????????????????????

add 87 bathurst cars for this round???????????????????

have a 2 hour classic starting at regular time with qualifying and top ten at 5pm??????????????????????????????????

Sounds good to me

Yeah the shootout sounds like a great idea.

Had to laugh at Nissan, in the video.... Racing the "old" DR30, while the pace car is the "new" R31 GTS1... There's ya priorities lol!

Either way I'm easy Wally. 2 hours would certainly add even more strategy into the mix...

And, yeah, gotta have a top 10!

mozza wrote:Had to laugh at Nissan, in the video.... Racing the "old" DR30, while the pace car is the "new" R31 GTS1... There's ya priorities lol!

Yeah, the R31 wasn't homologated until i think August 1, 1987... and its official debut wasn't until the WTCC round at Fuji in November... as it was the ATCC Nissan R31's never arrived until Rd5 of 1988 at AIR

Those PJ DR30's were sturdy beasts though

so i used to race this track alot againt the AI in the R31.

but

i had most of the assists on.

so yeah, im sucking atm. i got a 2:25.6, thats the best i have managed so far.

mozza helped out with some settings advice, and the car is much more stable now.

just gotta find the right braking points and best line.

fun.

A 2:26 isn't bad for an M3, especially to start with.

What hurts the M3 at Bathurst is the run from Hell Corner to Sulman Park, it comes into its own on the way back down the Mountain. Bathurst is a track that once you suss it out you can make seconds up (to an extent), and there is rarely a lap that you get spot on.

My favourite track. Oddly, I do particularly well here in real life, but really struggle in rFactor. Go figure.

I fractured the base of my spine a few years ago in a big crash at Morgan Park. There is no way i can sit for 2 hours. Top 10 shoot out would be fun.

Allowing Bathurst '87 cars will allow RS500s..................

ok let's go for one hour......

due to introing the more powerful sierra we might stick to 87atcc/wtcc

top ten will be on


I will probably share a bmw with shazam on the computer that does work which will mean i will be out of my merc for the rest of the season as we cant go back to a previous car if we swap

sorry about results for last week but i am working on trying to get a new server up and running

W26

Wally26 wrote:ok let's go for one hour......

due to introing the more powerful sierra we might stick to 87atcc/wtcc

top ten will be on


I will probably share a bmw with shazam on the computer that does work which will mean i will be out of my merc for the rest of the season as we cant go back to a previous car if we swap

sorry about results for last week but i am working on trying to get a new server up and running

W26

rules are made to be broken wally, think of it more as youre sitting out of your car this race. borrowing someone elses. just go back to the merc when its over. id love to run the 31 around here, although its taily as all hell and i probably wont do very well ha.

David Paterson wrote:My favourite track. Oddly, I do particularly well here in real life, but really struggle in rFactor. Go figure.

I fractured the base of my spine a few years ago in a big crash at Morgan Park. There is no way i can sit for 2 hours. Top 10 shoot out would be fun.

Allowing Bathurst '87 cars will allow RS500s..................

Perhaps a hotswap, like the plan for next seasons Bathurst?

I'm all for you jumping back in the Merc Wally. I've no issues with it either... Hell, I probably wouldn't have even realised it lol.

done a few laps around the mountain in the M3.

best i did was like a 1:25.1. Which is waaay off the pace lol, but i reckon ive only done about 20 laps, i think i racked up about 300 at Silverstone lol.

so yeeah. sunday is a long time away, gotta get it down.

theres not really alot of places to shave seconds. soo, i dunno.

You'll find more time than you think Shayn. The trick to Bathurst is practice and patience... plus the fact that its rare that anyone does the perfect lap.

Managed another quick go yesterday. Still have no idea how I managed my earlier time......1:19.7 was an improvement tho. Saturday shall be test day for me hopefully

Do we have a definitive schedule for Sunday night?

same time, 7.30 q- 10m
top 10

break

1hr race

Thanks Wally

elgibo wrote:Managed another quick go yesterday. Still have no idea how I managed my earlier time......1:19.7 was an improvement tho. Saturday shall be test day for me hopefully

1m19.7 is astonishingly quick for a Volvo around there.

I'm at roughly the same pace at the moment in the Supra.

still only managed a 1:25. grr.

btw, the server keeps kicking me. every 10 minutes i get "connection lost" and it drops me to the main menu.

no problems with my connection at the time, so i dont know whats going on.

1m23 in early prac in the bmw on shaz's pc using the old wheel


anyone else getting kicked after 10 minutes?????

W26

Hey Shane you on the you New Australian Based server or old practice one

the prima target server at Bathurst.

im fairly sure it isnt my connection, i just went and drove around in a random server for about half an hour or more didnt get dropped.

i went into the Bathurst server after that and lasted about 8 minutes, and got "connection lost" again.

ive reset my modem and checked all the settings for firewall etc.

im out of ideas lol.

btw, can someone please make the practice session longer.

like an hour and a half or something like the last round.

cant get a good run in to test tyres etc when the session is only 20 mins. thats only roughly 11 laps. ( mozza.)

thanks.

10 laps in 20 mins? Geez shayn, you must be punching 2min dead to do that!


Oh, and Merc needs more power. Alot more! Gimme gimme gimme!

ok i dont like to whinge but, me and Mozza just got "connection lost" about 6 times in the last 15 minutes.

so its not just me.

sorry to go on abt it, but yer, server is unusable atm. just letting you know.

gonna go prac offline.

As a means of comparison;

Here are the results of TTR's first TCL Bathurst enduro from Season 1

^^wow, i got a 1:24 in a COROLLA? with a PS3 remote?
i just scratched 1:24 today in the M3 with a WHEEL.

fml.


server seems to be alot better now.

havent dropped out in a while. nor anyone else.

thanks for extended practice also. Practice is back to 20 mins.

Wow there's some very fast times there! Good thing there's no Merc times, so I've nothing to be measured against

Dan_GTX 2:17 in a Corolla Levin??????????????? WTF

shaynskyline wrote:^^wow, i got a 1:24 in a COROLLA? with a PS3 remote?

Obbzy wrote:Dan_GTX 2:17 in a Corolla Levin??????????????? WTF

All the top times were done in Sierra's (the car names listed are with which you first raced during season 1... eg Shayn's first race was in a Corolla) I still have the replay of that race though shayn, you were racing a Sierra RS500.

mozza wrote:Wow there's some very fast times there! Good thing there's no Merc times, so I've nothing to be measured against

I am keeping it a secret lol

ok sorry once again guys, results today for silver

Phew! Cheers for posting that wally Looking at my quali time again - 1:19. The faster time I have on my bio must of been in a sierra. Was wondering why I was so far away from it in my vovo. Managed another 1.19 in quali for our little race today. Stuffed it into a wall a bit later on whilst leading....keep changing down too early at the top through the esses - really really twitchy when I'm pushing it. How did you like the brick then dan? Not a bad package for Bathurst imo. Just wish you could turn the boost up for quali.

I have a question - do people change down into 2nd for turn 2 or do you keep it in 3rd? I've seen racers do both when I've been watching the 1000. Which is generally used? 3rd for less strain during the race or is it a per car/gearbox setup?

elgibo wrote:I have a question - do people change down into 2nd for turn 2 or do you keep it in 3rd? I've seen racers do both when I've been watching the 1000. Which is generally used? 3rd for less strain during the race or is it a per car/gearbox setup?

I think it depends on the car. Some don't have the torque to pull out of XL Bend in 3rd gear so need 2nd gear for abit of punch up towards the cutting. In the Supra i need 2nd gear, but previously in the Sierra i could sweep through in 3rd.

In real-life it was much of a muchness, Peter Brock was always big on going through there in 3rd gear, while Allan Grice always used 2nd (it was how Grice was able to pass Brock on the run out of there a couple of times over the years)

Wally26 wrote:

mozza wrote:Wow there's some very fast times there! Good thing there's no Merc times, so I've nothing to be measured against

I am keeping it a secret lol

*Gulp*

games full. i think some of the new comers need to make way for people whove been here from the start.......

What a joke. Seriously. A Merc, in the backup server, with 9 other cars. Which included Sierras, Commodores and a Volvo.

I just left after 8 laps... I was coming out of Forest Elbow and the leaders were crossing the line. Seriously, why would I wanna do a race for a whole hour by myself?


Edit - I should add that I mean this as no disrespect to Wally or the admins at TTR, it's just a very frustrating occurance. Maybe next time the Group 1's can be put together and the Group 2's in the other server...

Got booted anyway mate. Was having a good dice after making a mistake then pitting. Brought some of the field back together again. My favourite track Really a shame it ended this way. I'll take my 10 points for disconnect pls.

Hey Guys

Just Remember these servers aren't free even though we had already paid for the month Wally paid out more for additional New server to try and stop the problem with the TCL. It didn't work and to try and make sure everyone could race he obviously split the field to try and still make it work. It wasn't something he had time to plan.

Yeah on short notice not much else could really be done, thanks to Wally & Benny for at least trying to put something together in the heat of the moment of race night. In the end at least we got a race, was just a shame that it was Bathurst that it happened at.

Following on from discussions happening during the night in the chat box, I don't think the mod specifically is the problem here.

If we need funding for a better server, i'll chip in.

Don't get me wrong - I really really appreciate all the work and money you guys put into it Just a shame for me thats all. Oh well - I'll be there next time

I wish I knew what the problem is but I do think it is mod or conflict with user versions in some way The last 3 Tuesday's we have had same numbers as you guys with no server problems same with Saturday a couple of weeks ago with 15 no dramas.

Maybe we need to look at running our own version ie our own skinned cars grouped separately under a ttr folder so we all have 100% the same. Not sure if it is the solution but might be worth a try

If someone knows how to even just create a ttr folder within tcl with all the atcc 87 and wtcc cars in it I'm happy to host the download so we give it a try for next week

20 cars there tonight, i left so regulars could get in and practiced v8s again i didnt mind one bit
but looking through these 4 pages i see wally has put in money to help keep things running and wally and wally and wally
for such a big turn out i thought atlest 5 of the 20 would have become financial members even if its 15$ every couple of months to help out,
cost more than that to drive to town to go to the pub or to get out 2 vids

TTR Benny wrote:I wish I knew what the problem is but I do think it is mod or conflict with user versions in some way The last 3 Tuesday's we have had same numbers as you guys with no server problems same with Saturday a couple of weeks ago with 15 no dramas.

Maybe we need to look at running our own version ie our own skinned cars grouped separately under a ttr folder so we all have 100% the same. Not sure if it is the solution but might be worth a try

Its a wierd problem.

I've been on other servers & leagues with TCL, running as many as 25-30 cars and haven't had these problems. And even on TTR, these issues have only come up in the last few weeks, really just since Spa, the first part of the season and all last season the mod ran fine on here....

I put in the money because Benny has built a fantastic league and you guys are THE BEST AND FAIREST I HAVE ever had the pleasure of racing with.
I am not the hero here, 1st of all I can't say enough about the efforts benny has put into this and all this with raising a young family as well....
I enjoy this racing and will try my best i have the knowledge of and or that i can financially to make this work, I feel more capacity on the server is the first step I will take.

It looks like at least 24 slots is needed and depending on how easy it is to mix the races together if any over 20.. then we might throw people onto a second server.

I do agree totally that next time we make the second server if needed class based instead of top ten time based as to who goes to another server.

My apologies for this as I was trying to think quickly on what to do and made an error there..

once again my apologies and just to recap, it's benny who put in the effort and it is YOU RACERS that make it a great league.

W26