TCL 2.5 litre Trans Tasman Challenge

TCL 2.5 litre Trans Tasman Challenge

Mod:
TCL

League Start:
28th September 2014

League Format:
There will be two races per night over 12 Rounds There will be 1 x 15 minute race and 1 x 40 minute race.
There will be qualifying for the first race. The grid for the second race will be made up from the finish place of the first race, however the top ten placings will be reversed.

Cars:
All cars up to 2.5 litre will be available except the BMW M3 Evo, and any other car deemed to have an unfair advantage.
What ever car you start with in the first round you must stick with for the entire league. You cannot change the car halfway through.

Tracks: UPDATED 
28th September      (NZ) Pukekohe (Pre Chicane)
5th October            (Aus) Bathurst
12th October          There is no racing this date due to Bathurst
19th October          (NZ) Taupo
26th October          (Aus) Hidden Valley 
2nd November        (NZ) Hampton Downs
9th November         (Aus) Townsville
16th November       (NZ) Timaru
23rd November       (Aus) Barbagello
30th November       (NZ) Manfield
7th December         (Aus) Lakeside
14th December       (NZ) Teretonga
21st December       (Aus) Phillip Island

Practice Night:
We will be at least one practise night before the league starts.

Teamspeak:
It would be appreciated if all drivers could at least be in listen mode on Teamspeak, for the safety of all.
Please refrain from talking or chatting in game during qualifying. This can distract the other drivers who are trying to set a lap time.

This looks like a lot of fun.

Track details...

(NZ) Pukekohe (Pre Chicane) [url=http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pukekohe Park-WGTL]http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Pukekohe%20Park-WGTL[/url]
(Aus) Bathurst TTR
(NZ) Taupo 2010 (To Come)
(Aus) Hidden Valley TTR 
(NZ) Hampton Downs 2013 TTR
(Aus) Townsville 2012 TTR
(NZ) Timaru (To come)
(Aus) Barbagello TTR
(NZ) Manfield TTR
(Aus) Lakeside 2010 http://www.mediafire.com/download/28cvkfqe691fe8c/Lakeside+Park.7z
(NZ) Teretonga TTR
(Aus) Phillip Island 2013 TTR

Here are all cars available to choose from:

Alfa Romeo 75 Turbo
Alfa Romeo 75V6
Alfa Romeo GTV6

BMW M3

Ford Escort RS1600i
Ford Escort RS Turbo

Mercedes 190E

Mitsubishi Starion Turbo

Toyota Corolla Coupe
Toyota Corolla GT
Toyota Corolla Levin

Volvo 240 Turbo

If you try get in with any other car, the server will automatically boot you out 

After last nights practise, there are a couple of things that need clarifying.
There are two versions of the BMW M3. A 2.3 litre and a 2.6 litre. Both will be availabe to use.
(I was quicker in the 2.3 litre or some reason). Gearbox configurations are free (5 speed or 6 speed). The 2.0 litre turbo Volvo will be allowed as well.
However - if there is one car that is dominant throughout the league I may consider adding weight.

BMW M3 2.6 litre is an error on the part of the mod creators, there's no such thing.

Surely the Volvo will spank everything?

I was going to mention this.

If you take into account the swept volume and use an equivalency factor of 1.7 for a turbo (this is pretty normal type of equivalency), a Volvo would be in the outright class, probably 4+ litres. Hence why they could keep up with a 5 Litre Commodore in the 1986 ETCC.

Same goes for a Starion Turbo, surely?

Even though they both handle like a bucket of wheat, they should spank any M3 or Merc.

After last nights testing, my initial thoughts were to include the Volvo as a point of difference because in previous leagues, most people just go for the M3

The Alfa 75 turbo would also fall outside of the 2.5 litre ceiling, however the Merc and M3 are more competitive.

My aim in including the Volvo and Starion was to have a wider range of cars competing instead of 1 or 2.
I'm happy to exlcude the Volvo if there is enough resistance. The other option is to only allow a few back markers the choice of using the Volvo or not. I'm sure it would give David, Nutty (and Phil if he joins up) etc a better chance of being competitve...

The mix of cars we have are pretty good.

The Volvo isn't as fast as everyone thinks, the M3 is one to beat most of the time.

I just did a test with the Volvo, M3, Merc, Alfa GTV6 & Alfa 75 Turbo and they are all pretty competitive.

The Volvo wasn't the quickest !

I also drove the Starion last night and it's probably one of the slowest.

Alfa 75 turbo is a 1.8.

David Paterson wrote:Alfa 75 turbo is a 1.8.

Which makes it close to 3.0 litre by my calculations...

could have previous championship winners drive the slower cars. could even it up a little

I'll go with the majority, Mozza (Volvo) was pretty close to me in the BMW at Hidden Valley.

On the tighter circuits I think the BMW would be better, but anything with a long straight/s will benefit the Volvo.

I guess my issue was one of historical significance, I don't think the Volvo's ever ran against the BMW M3's, certainly in factory form.

Thinking about this today as I drive down country, I will exclude the Volvo. As mentioned my aim was to include a few more cars to choose from but I see I could have issues during the league with this.

If its the speed of the Volvo, then like I said there's nothing to worry about !

If it was going to dominate on a track with straights, then Pukekohe would be a track that it does, but it doesn't. Again there are other cars that are quicker.

Another good test would be at Bathurst, where still I think the Volvo wouldn't be the quickest.

I say leave it in, but that's up to Growler.
I wasn't going to drive it anyway, so it don't effect me 

#43 Marlboro M3 of Grouuillard/Sala for me

Leave the Volvo in Growler, all good.

Ok...I will leave it in but recommend the regular fast guys don't use it.
If it starts to run away I can give it a weight penalty.

It did some laps in the Merc with Berlsy in the Volvo.
There was nothing in it. I did post a faster laptime in the Merc...by .01 of a second!

the GTV6 is surprising. despite not having many gear adjustments or brake bias in car its good once the rear is settled and you learn to trail brake.

I was hoping to race tonight but couldn't get everything downloaded in time. I will compete from next time, i will probably race a Mercedes

Growler wrote:

David Paterson wrote:Alfa 75 turbo is a 1.8.

Which makes it close to 3.0 litre by my calculations...

The Alfa 75 ran in the under 2500cc class in 1987.

1.8ltr engine multiplied by the 1982-1987 turbo equivalency factor of 1.4 keeps it under the 2500cc limit.

The turbo equivalency factory only went up to 1.7 in 1988, by which time Alfa had already pulled completely out of Group A racing worldwide, so it didn't affect the cars.

Hi, thinking of getting the wheel out and joining.  

Do I install all four of the downloads listed under the "Sunday - Downloads" links on the left panel (1.0, 1.0 All Addons, 635 fix, ATCC skins)?

yeah, do all that and if you have any issues yell out for help and we can jump on TS to guide you through.

Hey Vandem!
Welcome aboard. Yeah...if you need any help just yell out

is this the taupo version http://www.mediafire.com/download/1hik2gnyuxt/Taupo2008v1.rar

TTR-Chrisrx wrote:is this the taupo version http://www.mediafire.com/download/1hik2gnyuxt/Taupo2008v1.rar

No. I uploaded the Taupo and Timaru tracks last night, I just need Corty to check that he has them.
Danman made Taupo from track plans is the more acurate version. This is the one we will be running
The same with Timaru...

I've put the Taupo track on the server (its all up & running) and the track is in the Tracks drop down on the left side of this site under "Taupo 2010".

Timaru I couldn't do as the rar file needs a password 

TTR-CortyGT wrote:I've put the Taupo track on the server (its all up & running) and the track is in the Tracks drop down on the left side of this site under "Taupo 2010".

Timaru I couldn't do as the rar file needs a password 

These were the files that had (2014) in the file name?
If so...I will check Timaru out tonight.

Yeah the 2014 ones.